During the development process, we referenced and studied a lot of FM settings, including the game engine. hello, can your new file be used on genie scout 21? He did a huge post about it on the Korean FM forum. Detailed information about each role. The study used machine learning to get the weights.Keep in mind that two attributes of the table have ranges from -100 to 0 in FM Genie Scout instead of 0 to 100: eccentricity and punching tendency. 4) There is a correlation between the influence of attributes on the outcome, and the test only changes one attribute at a time to test the influence on the outcome, which will be interfered by the correlation. You must log in or register to reply here. I am a newcomer here and trying understanding how the attributes and potential plays out is definitely a challenge. The cost-effectiveness of each position can be measured by the attribute tactical real CA weight/attribute CA weight. They do not venture too far out of their box when in possession. Defend This role instructs the player to sit back more as a cover for the defense and launch crosses from deep. Support Less defensive responsibility and more the traditional wide player who will look to cross the ball early, run past the opposition or pass inwards to the midfield to recycle possession or progress forward. thepunisher23 said: hello, can your new file be used on genie scout 21? This question comes up a lot on the forum. Mark said: I think this needs a little work to balance out the ratings. For example, 25 to 40 have a gap of 15.Anyone else's opinion would also be appreciated! Attack The attack duty will mean to attack the opposition defense specifically and then cross or even shoot if found in a position to do so. Attack A very brave keeper who will travel far outside their area and be heavily involved with the ball at their feet. I like to keep such helpful tools going.Make sure you have downloaded my Ratings file called MDW22.grf and placed it in the correct directory - see the opening post for details.Open Genie Scout and load your game into the tool.Open up Edit Player Ratings.A dialogue box will open up with the ratings information. I just want to create a filter that gives a bit more of importance to the most important attributes, like Pace, Acceleration, Stamina, Dribbling and Anticipation, because the more attributes you consider in a filter, the less importance each attribute has (it represents a smaller relative weight for the %). Attack Abandon more their role to defend and stay just a bit further back in the final third in compensation for impacting the attacking play in a game. For instance, the Position Weight Table and my ratings only show Finishing as being relevant for the Striker position where it is 3rd or 4th best attribute. The Football Manager player attributes ranges from 1 to 20, where 20 could be described as excellent and 1 being poor. They will provide support in wide areas at times, but from deep. The limitation of this work is that it is not positional. As it sits it favours Strikers and AMs too much and there are no GKs anywhere to be seen. Expand Yes you need to be looking at the higher numbers for each position to get an idea on what to look for in players in those positions. What do I mean by this, well have a look at the screenshot below. I have a copy so can make it available if anyone forgets and wants it. Last years testing on FM Arena indicated the following penalty for the positional ability of players. Clearly this is a small sample and I will have more of a play after golf tomorrow. Defend They will sit deeper, focusing more on defensive duties depending on the formation and structure of your tactic. The purpose of this post is to give back to the community.2. This shows the testing of each attribute in FM22 and the impact of reducing the attribute score has on results. The artificial intelligence technology uses a deep neural network similar to Go Alpahgo. Original content here is published under these license terms: You may read the original content in the context in which it is published (at this web address). Sofor me personally very difficult to understand how come in the game of shooting the ball in to the net finishing is not making difference :/. They will be with their defensive partner(s) in working to break up attacks, preventing the ball from going into the box and marking opposition as a part of your tactic. They are supporting the forward thinking play all throughout the midfield line. for example check shane lavery in blackpool! Football Manager, Sports Interactive and the Sports Interactive logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Sports Interactive Limited. Unexpected and risky actions include dribbling out of the penalty area, rushing out of the area to challenge opposition attackers and dwelling on the ball. RDF Training Schedules & Development guide. Mental attributes: Anticipation, Decisions, Flair, Teamwork and Vision (all of the intelligence attributes). Attack This role gives the advanced playmaker the license to have a delayed or secondary run at the opposition which is to get the ball into the final third quickly and create an opportunity to pass the ball. Expand hahaha good point mate! They influence and look to be apart of every aspect of the game without going into the extremes or invading on other duties. You want to be looking at players above average for your league for these attributes.I hope this helps. These are the ones I am interested in. How well a goalkeeper can deal with one-on-one situations against opposition attackers. @Mark, I made three poor man's version and I would like to know your opinion in which one gives the best results. And acceleration seems weakest now? Acceleration and Pace are still the most important. FM22 Training Schedules Download How To Install Use the download button above then extract the file using WinRAR for Windows or Archiver for Mac and extract to the file location below: \Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2021\schedules If you simply drop the file in the Ratings folder, you can simply click "Rating" in Genie Scout and the file will be there to select. Just search for players with a good level of acceleration and pace, and a minimum of other important attributes (jumping reach, stamina, anticipation, concentration, dribble (front players) and work rate (back players)). i mean i am finding cheap players who are performing amazing! Mark said: OK so I had a quick play with the ratings files. The views expressed on this site are the views of the individual contributors and not those of Sports Interactive or SEGA. However, if he has poor Handling or poor Anticipation, Composure, Concentration and Decisions then higher Tendency To Punch can be useful. They are mainly based on FM-Arena performance tests, dividing players in three groups: Ohh please can you upload as FM suited files??? Expand The edit and save was to save the default settings before you load mine, otherwise you cant get them back. Frankly, this sheet works in the same way as the Overall Roles tab. This gives a sense of the value of each attribute for each position. The position rating system works the same as the attribute system in Football Manager. Wigo said: hey! Here are the results:Disclaimer: I have used players out of the positions identified in the results, but in the main they have played the positions indicated. Online since 2004. ; Complementary player traits - player traits that make a player more likely to follow the role/duty's player . Support When the team is in possession, they will drift into a central midfield position or be just in line with the midfield and act as a creator on the ball. I'm sorry if this seems as a bit of a noob question. We are always looking for quality content creators, capable of producing insightful articles. What does that mean for individual training in general? saycarramrod said: If you simply drop the file in the Ratings folder, you can simply click "Rating" in Genie Scout and the file will be there to select. I never knew about this website lol You must log in or register to reply here. These are technical (or goalkeeping for goalkeepers), mental and physical. The calculation was 1-(1.039/1.648) or 36.95%. Player instructions - the player instructions given by the role/duty. Cover Will drop a touch deeper to sweep up any long balls. For example, 25 to 40 have a gap of 15.Anyone else's opinion would also be appreciated! Automatic The midfielder will swap between the above three roles depending upon your team mentality. https://fm-arena.com/table/13-fm22-attributes-ratings/. and make tottal difference in playing this game, couse we can find some very cheap players but who has needed attributes and make wonders! Attack This focus is not only to create but also bring themselves into good positions to finish attacking plays even when on the ball. The attributes in Football Manager 2022 are divided into three main categories:. Page created in 13.188 seconds. There should not be major discrepancies between positions ie you should be getting most positions covered in the top 50 or so top players. But I think if you wanted to use one of the ratings files above, I would go with the ZaZ -50. There should not be major discrepancies between positions ie you should be getting most positions covered in the top 50 or so top players.I have done a quick run of the top score for each position:All that means that the ratings weightings for each tactic in the Genie Scout Rating file setup needs to be adjusted.Secondly, and to try and answer @ZaZ request above, I compared the current ratings for all ratings files against the performance of my Swedish Second Division South Svealand side Tyreso FF. Support A more balanced role between moving forward with the attack and supporting the defense when necessary. Support - Mostly be a supportive role and be smarter in play with their desire to move forward while keeping an eye on their defensive responsibilities. maybe you can a new thread for this? How well a goalkeeper can hold on to the ball when attempting to catch it. I've been picking players with accordance to the attributes rating table for long time and it's been working like a charm to me. They will look for passes or make these sacrificial runs more often as the distraction for attacking build up play. Thank you ZaZ and Mark for all your work! Contact Us | Copyright Notice | Privacy Policy | Cookie Policy, www.guidetofm.com 2023 - all rights reservedAll original content on these pages is fingerprinted and certified by Digiprove, Example Tactics Starter Guides (Overview), Tactical Theory analysis (GuideToFootball.com). We have detect that you're using an AdBlocker. in link its only GRF file :/ Expand There isn't much what to do there. I have adjusted the weightings this year to try and align all the positions, as previously the ratings were skewed with Wingers having a much higher rating.A reminder here that Genie Scout doesn't take into account the positional ability of players in their ratings calculations. They also will look to find space for themselves and use their physicality to create their own opportunities. Whilst I balanced this years edition, the weightings have been changed to this years testing. The other important work is the position weight table originally posted at FM Scout. Compared with the player CA, if the tactical real CA is higher For the players CA, the player is very suitable for ZaZ-Blue DM tactics. Last year I put everyone on acceleration lol (. Expand OK so I had a quick play with the ratings files. very interesting! well i had general idea about how some attributes are more important then others, but different people talking different things and it makes confuse for me personally very difficult to understand how come in the game of shooting the ball in to the net finishing is not making difference :/ same as in my opinion other one of most important thing in football is DESITION making test again shows that is not important attribute in FM head skreching stuff but in other hand if someone can test and find properly what attributes really makes difference and which ones not it could be revolutionary! He did a test and set all the "unimportant" attributes ( according to the attributes rating table ) to 1 and few important to 20 and he easily won the EPL. Please. Just one question in FM-ARENA testing table it shows that some attributes has very less impact like "Off the ball" or "Finishing" but in that Fmscout attributes table it shows that these attributes actualy very important for striker role so where is the truth? We use artificial intelligence to study the importance of attributes. If you go to your Squad page in the game and then to Analyst Report and Comparison, you can see how your current squad compares to others in your League on each Attribute. ZaZ said: This is the FM Genie Scout filter based on the study of ykykyk05251 for best attributes for each position of Blue 3.0 RPM (aka Blue DM). Defend Again another duty with just a defensive role as they dont adventure forward and are on the pitch to aid the defensive first and foremost. Less likely to overlap or underlap and more likely to provide a diagonal backwards passing option. For example, the test results have almost no impact on the outcome of shooting, but explosive power has a great impact on the outcome. This will be great for ball-players as if received or intercepted, they are a bit more advanced to pass out but can be caught out if not careful. Wigo said: hey! In FM21 there was some guy on Korean FM forum that won EPL with only 1 CA players. Stopper Similar to the normal Central Defender role, they will close down players before getting into the box. Working the ball around and you are able to get into a good position; this is a good attacking opportunity, just needs a bit more patience and your player takes a shot from 35 yards out which is never going to trouble the keeper. Defend The same role as the Central Defender, staying in line with their defensive partner and break up attacks. The guiding significance for training, the attribute is occupied by the CA, in order to cultivate the tactical real CA For the highest player, we can cultivate the most cost-effective attribute. Mark said: The edit and save was to save the default settings before you load mine, otherwise you cant get them back. They are split into three categories on each players Profile screen. They are mainly based on FM-Arena performance tests, dividing players in three groups:- Defense: central defenders.- Transition: wingbacks and defensive midfielders.- Attack: wingers, central midfielders, advanced midfielders and strikers.Goalkeepers are also there, but they use my personal feelings instead of any tests, since it's hard to evaluate the most important attributes for goalkeepers.Link here, since I can't upload as attachment. Here are the results:Disclaimer: I have used players out of the positions identified in the results, but in the main they have played the positions indicated. Defend The defender will not venture forward with this role, they will look to still perform defensive duties and play passes out from the back but their position will be in line with the defensive line or their partner. They are mainly based on FM-Arena performance tests, dividing players in three groups:- Defense: central defenders.- Transition: wingbacks and defensive midfielders.- Attack: wingers, central midfielders, advanced midfielders and strikers.Goalkeepers are also there, but they use my personal feelings instead of any tests, since it's hard to evaluate the most important attributes for goalkeepers.Link here, since I can't upload as attachment. Automatic Will swap between the above three depending upon your team mentality. 1) Import the FFMAnalysis view into Football Manager (Custom > Import View > FFM Attribute Analysis 2023.fmf) 2) Press CTRL + P and save as a web page in your preferred location. Expand Download copy. This shows the testing of each attribute in FM22 and the impact of reducing the attribute score has on results. It is particularly useful in wet weather conditions. Positive or negative, in order to continue to iterate on the multi-layer network, knowing that iteratively produces the best 11-person combination that AI thinks.We trained about 140 machines for 3 weeks, simulated 40 million games, and got convergence results.5. Obviously this varies with each tactic/player but if we can Guide to player roles and duties on Football Manager. It is close to 4 o'clock. Expand I do recall that experiment. Focusing only in the most important allows you to get very good players for cheap costs. Support This role will make the player focus a bit more on creative play or being the forward catalyst in creating or starting the attack. Is there a guide out there for the key stats needed for each position? Expand I think this needs a little work to balance out the ratings. This gives a sense of the value of each attribute for each position. You may not copy and distribute the work in full.Football Manager, the Sports Interactive logo and generated in-game images are Sports Interactive. Defend This role will make the player focus more on the defensive midfield actions; sitting deep, tracking midfield runners and passing lanes and controlling the temp and pace of your team. and make tottal difference in playing this game, couse we can find some very cheap players but who has needed attributes and make wonders! Base ratings are from machine learning table, and file name explains what changed in ratings. Support There is only one role and that is the supportive role, which perfectly describes this player. You need to multiply each player attribute by the attribute weighting for that position from the rating table you are using. 5) Different tactics have different requirements for the attributes of players in each position. The weightings have only been developed by position and not across all positions so need adjusting in terms of weight for each position. Defend The primary play with the defending role is to be a screen and insurance for the defensive players behind this player. Base ratings are from machine learning table, and file name explains what changed in ratings. Anticipation, Composure, Concentration and Decisions also affect how well a decision is made whether to punch or catch. 'The Advanced Forward's main role is to lead the line and look to spearhead attacking moves.' I am not convinced about the Acc for GKs but time will tell. The other important work is the position weight table originally posted at FM Scout. Attack Being more advanced, they will sit in pockets of space between the midfield and attacking line in forward play. No need to Edit and save as your own file name. JavaScript is disabled. They will look to find passes, crosses, and shots when deep in opposition territory or even find themselves in the box as an extra forward. Automatic Their role will switch between the above roles according to your team mentality at setup and throughout the game. Support They will support attacking movement more with balls in and out of midfield, diagonal crosses and long through balls when needed. What do I mean by this, well have a look at the screenshot below. They are best suited in a structured system who have the straight-forward task of anchoring the defense, not being too creative nor dribble essentially as risk free as possible. Depends on different positions, formation & tactics. Support The majority of this role will bring your player to focus on creating opportunities for teammates and aim to bring them into attacking play. Please, support us by turning it off for our site. The last group is given by AI. Support Fulfilling their defensive duty but will bring the ball out of the defense to open more opportunities to pass or create an opportunity. i mean i am finding cheap players who are performing amazing! Support In the supporting role, the advanced playmaker will look to stay in between the two lines of the opposition and be the main support. Sports Interactive, the Sports Interactive logo, in-game generated images and any other Football Manager related items are registered trademarks and/or copyright material owned by Sports Interactive, or their respective trademark and copyright holders. Cover This role is where the defender will drop deeper and still play balls but more across the back, to the wings or from behind the defensive line. Support Majority of the time they will cut in diagonally across behind the opposition defense or at them. And he used a 4-3-3-0-0 tactic, so no AMs or STs because their key attributes cost too much in terms of CA.I am not a fan of changing player attributes to win games. (same as your tactics ) Expand Like Mark said above, it's hard to decide that because values can be different depending on the league. I hope this helps someone.Enjoy. I learned this from last years attempt. Let us know how it goes. Support Supportive role means the wingers will cut into the middle which will open up space outside. Higher Communication means that there will be more stability in your defence and less mistakes made. In addition I have used 2 main tactics, Dragons Breath that uses an MC instead of AMC, and ZaZ Blue DM, but given the ratings files don't all have MC ratings I just used AMC.To answer @ZaZ question the ZaZ-100 ended up equal with MDW in picking 8 of the best 11 positional players. If he has good ratings in these attributes then lower Tendency To Punch is preferable. Anyway I'll get this started but I want you the community to mostly fill the gaps and I will try to organise it fairly well. Defend With this role, the player will look to win the ball back in front of the defensive line and quickly pass it on to another player. that would be fantastic from you! Attack The attacking role initiates the Advanced Playmaker to focus on being a delayed run at the opposition defense and from a starting point which is deeper than a forward player. 3) The influence of attribute on the outcome is non-linear. Movement - A player's intelligence when he is off the ball. Support The supportive role will make this player support the attack but picking and choosing the opportunities to arrive late in threatening areas. Expand It is somewhere in between. Like our Facebook page & Subscribe to our YouTube channel! Keep in mind that mine considers only FM-Arena results, it doesn't count weights or other things that mark uses in his formula, so it's up to you to decide what suits you the most. 3. Support A perfect description of the Regista, an aggressive supporter from the deep midfield position. Gunners at 2021-12-30 14:36Basic introduction:1. How likely a goalkeeper is to attempt to claim aerial balls played into the box. Roles: You can use these filters for comparison of players when you are buying players or to determine the best player for each role in your tactic from your squad. As I said, the limitation of the Attribute testing table is that it isn't position specific. The first observation is that you need to balance the ratings files. Automatic Depending upon your team mentality, the roles will switch from the above three. The goal (excuse the pain) is to get the ball in the back of the net and they have that knack or instinct for finding goals. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. As it sits it favours Strikers and AMs too much and there are no GKs anywhere to be seen. He did a test and set all the "unimportant" attributes ( according to the attributes rating table ) to 1 and few important to 20 and he easily won the EPL. Or for FM? Rince said: In FM21 there was some guy on Korean FM forum that won EPL with only 1 CA players. Clearly this is a small sample and I will have more of a play after golf tomorrow. OK so I had a quick play with the ratings files. Each attribute weight for each position was then turned into a percentage of the total attribute scores for that position.Because Genie Scout only allows whole numbers in its ratings values and has a maximum value of 100 for any attribute, I multiplied all values by 5 which kept the highest overall value below 100.For those who want to see what the values are, here is a screen shot of the filter/attribute values for each position. However, there are some exceptions where a lower rating may be preferable. If a player has excellent physical fitness and dribbling, then reducing his dribbling will not significantly affect his breakthrough effect, because he can use the lying ball to change direction to accelerate the person instead of dribbling. I'm gonna take the freedom to add the filters I use. Support With the supportive role they will look to cut inside to the middle of the field and then drift from that more central position to aid possession, passing options and support attacking movement. Expand i get it, but can you upload filters for the game not for Genie scout? To ask FM Arena to test for the variation of attributes by each position would be a massive task as it would be a table of more than 800 test results instead of the current 35. It's the other way around. amazing stuff! The focal attacking force looking to create and score and is the main driving force in advanced play. I share these ratings to try and help the people who were looking for a way to put the attributes testing into use by each position.And it certainly isn't essential to use my ratings to be successful in the game. Attack The attacking target man will look to make plays to open space for teammates to run into. I've been picking players with accordance to the attributes rating table for long time and it's been working like a charm to me. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Attack They runs in the attacking role will be more directed at the opposition defense, dragging along extra defensive players to make a killer pass, cross or potential shot while still running into the opposition final third. Anticipation, Composure, Concentration and Decisions also affect how well a decision is made whether to rush out. Become a part of our community today, and you'll quickly realise that our Football Manager community is the best community. Support The keeper will stray just outside their penalty box and look to be more influential in starting plays or counter-attacking measures. Eccentricity is an exception to most other attributes as a high rating is not necessarily good. Wigo said: wow lots of info, hard to understand everything but in excel sheet but as i understand it shows that for example composure is most important for CD(80) and DM(60) and for rest of positions are not so important? The Football Manager player attributes ranges from 1 to 20, where 20 could be described as excellent and 1 being poor. Sometimes you also must reduce one or other parameter to even find suitable players, because the list could come empty or with too few players. At some stage I intend to complete last years save. I have also redone my assessment of attributes that can be be improved for each position through training for this year. Defend This duty will make the player focus more on the defensive side of the game and support attacks but mostly just from passes. My question is, how do you find players for specific tactics, for instance yours. He did a test and set all the "unimportant" attributes ( according to the attributes rating table ) to 1 and few important to 20 and he easily won the EPL. Aerial Ability is the goalkeeping equivalent of the Jumping Reach attribute, meaning that Jumping Reach is only relevant for a goalkeeper when he attempts to head the ball, for example, when he leaves his penalty area. Higher Tendency To Punch can cause a goalkeeper to put more pressure on your defence by not catching the ball. that would be fantastic from you! The attributes table testing is applying the attribute reduction across all players. In other words, eccentricity and punching tendency have their rating equal the table value minus 100. The first observation is that you need to balance the ratings files. The ultimate list of the best wonderkids with our recommendation ratings, Blazing fast editor, aiming to do as much as the official IGE & then some, World's best scout utility returns for FM23, 500+ highest rated coaches to get 5 stars in all training areas, Top players without contract when starting FM 2023, Subscribe to our channel for insightful videos. But I think if you wanted to use one of the ratings files above, I would go with the ZaZ -50. If you have any question feel free to contact us support@fm-arena.com, Create an account or log in to leave a comment, for me personally very difficult to understand how come in the game of shooting the ball in to the net finishing is not making difference. I'm gonna take the freedom to add the filters I use. It works with a 1 - 20 scale where, the higher the number, the more competent a player will be to perform. Lower scores mean attributes had higher impact in performance.

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